By Matthew Brown
God brought me to the Men of the Rock, not because of any good thing in me, but because of His faithfulness and love. I knew I needed God. He offers each of us life and life more abundantly. God calls every sinner to repentance, and the seemingly impossible restorations of our hearts, He makes possible. Thank you God, for Jesus.
There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus our Lord, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
He brings dead men to life, I walked into MOTR a spiritually dead man. But God’s love conquers all.
In mercy and truth,
Atonement is provided for iniquity;
And by fear of the Lord one departs from evil.
Brothers in Christ, He loves you more than you or I deserve. We musn’t forget that.
God you are the reason I kept coming back, not because of any good in myself, but because of Your grace and lovingkindness.
Because your lovingkindness is better than life, my lips shall praise you.
I pray God that each of us, myself included would be brought to the cross each time we think of something as too difficult or things aren’t going as we thought. You Lord are all that matters. You are life itself, and liberty from our sin.
Then I pray to you oh Lord. I say, “You are my place of refuge. You are all I really want in life” -Psalm 142:5
Be encouraged because God is faithful. He is here, now, with arms of love open for you. Jump in and say ok God, have it your way. Something I learned while being here amoungst men of God, is that God doesn’t always want us comfortable. He wants us to be exposed to the Truth, Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. He also wants us to know the true condition our hearts. Where we stand before Him.
CS Lewis put it this way in Mere Christianity.
If you look for truth, you may find comfort in the end: if you look for comfort you will not get either comfort or truth — only soft soap and wishful thinking to begin with and, in the end despair.
I want to end with these two scripture verses that the Lord had given me while I was at MOTR, these helped me heal, and will continue to help me heal and lean on my Maker.
Seek the Lord while He may be Found, Call upon Him while He is near. Let the wicked forsake his way, And the unrighteous man his thoughts; Let him return to the Lord, And He will have mercy on him; And to our God, For He will abundantly pardon.
And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.
-Men of the Rock, Warriors.
IronMen Ministry Foundation has the privilege, honor and responsibility to post IronMen Disciple Testimonies on the Web site. We are encouraged by the men who have step forward, who are faithful and have made themselves available to Lord and are willing to share their experience in their one year commitment to spend time with Jesus Christ through the IronMen Ministry Discipleship. These men are living proof of what the power of the Holy Spirit can do when men submit and surrender themselves to the one and only true God and Jesus Christ whom He has sent. Through these testimonies we see that God uses men who are faithful and who make themselves available to Him. Hope you are encouraged, equipped and edified by our brother’s testimony.
IronMen Ministry Discipleship Year End Summary 2011 by Lewis Thompson
My name is Lewis Thompson and I attend St. Timothy Lutheran Church in theSouthBay. I would first of all like to share with you what my perspective was in my relationship with Jesus Christ before the IronMen Discipleship Ministry. I thought I was OK and that I had a pretty descent relationship with the Lord. Little did I know that as the year progress in the IronMen Discipleship that my relationship with Him would bring me to a new and awesome understanding of how large, how deep and how wide His love truly is for Lewis Thompson.
I always thought that my OK relationship with Jesus was enough to show my love for Him and that would slide by and that He would love me for who I was. Then as I began to spend time in the curriculum reading through the studies doing the assignments and reading through the books written by men of God I realized that these men knew God, had experienced God and had invested earnest time with God through prayer and scripture. They not only heard and read God’s word they studied, memorized and meditated on God’s word. As I began to invest more time with God and learning through these materials it was revealed to me how to better read and understand the word of God and that He actually would speak to me.
At first I thought I wasn’t going to make it through the year because the amount of material was too great for me to get through. I looked at all of the books and the hours of reading and studying I would have to do to complete and I thought to myself, ”This isn’t for me”. But I realized early on in my assigned small group that I wasn’t alone. I had a band of brothers gathered around me and they began to lift me up. Then I discovered that when I lifted them up we all received a new strength and power from the Holy Spirit. It was the Holy Spirit that began to give us encouragement and endurance to want to finish our one year commitment. We would look forward to meeting each other and sharing what God was revealing to us.
The one year was not easy, but I can tell you I also asked and received support from my loving and caring wife. She came along side of me in prayer and encouragement to help me continue on my way in drawing closer to God.
There have been so many of these books that have touched my heart, but the one that comes to mind and really helped open my heart and mind was Henry Blackaby’s “Experiencing God”. At the end of each study section, there was one question that never changed through out the book – What does God want you to do in response to today’s study? As I began to go through all of my answers, chapter after chapter I realized how many of my answers focused on ” Pray, seek His wisdom, and act on what He has taught me.”
I now know that God had a plan for each one of us to be a part of this IronMen Discipleship. Now that this season in our lives has come to an end, I know God has a ministry for each one of us to take part in and that it will further His Kingdom. I have been blessed by the leadership of IronMen, especially Ronnie and Rick Holderby. Thank you brother’s by hearing God’s call and being the catalyst for such awesome ministry. I leave you with this “ Jesus watched to see where the Father was at work and joined Him.”
IronMen Ministry Foundation has the privilege, honor and responsibility to post IronMen Disciple Testimonies on the Web site. We are encouraged by the men who have step forward and are willing to share their experience in their one year commitment in spending time with Jesus Christ through the IronMen Ministry Discipleship. These men are living proof of what the power of the Holy Spirit can do when men submit and surrender themselves to the one and only true God and Jesus Christ whom He has sent. Through these testimonies we see that God uses men who are faithful and who make themselves available to Him. Hope you are encouraged, equipped and edified by our brother’s testimony.
IronMen Ministry Discipleship Year End Summary 2011 by James Duffy
My name is James Duffy and I attend Foothills Church located in East County El Cajon. I did decide to make a one year commitment to the IronMen Discipleship after observing one of my friends who had made the commitment the previous year. As I reflect on my past year in this ministry the first thought that came to my mind was October of 2010. I had signed up just after losing my home and wondered how I was going to keep up with a ministry that required me to read 17 books, memorize 50 plus scriptures and do more bible reading and begin to do a journal. At the same time I am having a day job, expanding a business and raising a teenage son as a single parent. Was I crazy? I don’t like signing up for failure! But I knew I had to get more of God’s word in me and I knew I needed more time with the Lord. Year after year things had not changed much in those areas and so I signed up. My motivation was my buddy Chuck Hicks, he had finished going through his one year and I could see a big difference in him and I wanted that for myself.
The first studies were teachings of Henry Blackaby, ‘Experiencing God’ and ‘Hearing God’s Voice’. Within the first two months I was indeed experiencing God more and getting better direction from Him in many areas of my life. I was getting better at communicating with my son as we could talk and there was less yelling and more encouraging words from me. My business began to boom and I began to depend more on God. I trusted Him for the many decisions I had to make and the burdens became lighter. March and April are my peak times in the seasonal business I am in and I knew if I could stick with the IronMen Discipleship during this time I would make it through. So I ask God what to do and He gave me an idea to ask some of the men in my IronMen group to come and pray over me, my family and house. It was a blessing and beat back the enemy and his attacks on our home.
I found that by staying the course and keeping to my studies reading the assignments that they guided me to God’s word. It was very effective warfare strategy against the enemy and kept him at bay in my life and my son’s life. I recognized so many books speaking to me that I began to buy extra copies and gave them to my daughter, friends and my home fellowship Pastor. When I got to my seventh book called ‘The Blessed Life” it talked about giving and my life began to change radically. I did not have a problem with giving things but after reading this I realized I was to trust God and take this to another level. The author Robert Morris defines three levels of giving. One who tithes, one who gives offerings above his tithes and one who gives above offerings or an extravagant giver. So I knew my growing business was calling me to be the third level giver.
My donations to different ministries within the church increased like youth ministry and single occasions where I was used of God to bless struggling families in the church. Things like car payments, monthly rent and even the purchase of cooking utensils for a large family. My bank account balance did not matter when a need was placed on my heart I would give. In the beginning I looked at this as God using me to help someone in crisis. Then later He showed me that their testimony of Gods goodness would be a story they would share over and over again for the rest of their lives. It was all done in quiet as Gods word tells us do not let the left hand know what the right hand is doing. The joy I received from being used of God and hearing the testimonies is indescribable. I now have a new secret giving ministry and I give tribute to God who pointed me toward the IronMen Ministry.
What else happened? My relationship with my son improved! The things I was learning through my books and spending time with God opened my heart causing me to want to share it with others. I really didn’t know how much of it my son was absorbing and then he led the worship in my home fellowship. He spoke a prayer at the end of the worship and it was almost word for word of something I shared with him. My growth in Christ had caused my son to grow. Praise God!
Towards the end of IronMen we had two books that dealt with humility ‘Calvary Road and ‘Humility’. These books had a profound effect upon me. I am from New York and do not like people holding up traffic or the line at the grocery store. If those people could read my thoughts they would run! So one day I find myself in line at the store starting to get angry, then I remembered what I read and started thinking to myself, Lord I am no better than those in front of me in line. You love them just as much as you love me what gives me the right to think I am more important than them? Please calm me and forgive me and He did. I have to practice this daily sometimes, but it gets easier each time I do.
I could give many more stories of how this ministry has been life changing to me and my family. But the real proof I guess is saying as a man of God I have really changed. I truly want to be a part of God’s Kingdom work here on this earth. I want to be transparent around men of God. The accountability and willingness to accept correction from other Godly men is necessary. Being around men who tell me what I need to hear and not just what I want to hear is crucial to my growth and Spiritual warfare. To hear other brothers in Christ whom I look up to to say that they have seen a tremendous change in me has impacted my life and blows me away. I am being complimented by ladies whom otherwise would not say a thing to me which is a miracle of God. I went into IronMen Ministry with no intention except to participate and get through it. Now I will lead a group in the next IronMen season and I will go through the materials again so that I may get more out of them and encourage those around me. But more importantly my hope is that God would use me to have an impact on the men in my group so they can have a testimony even greater than mine. I want to thank Pastors Mark Hoffman, Dave Hoffman and Don Bastrom for allowing the IronMen Ministry Discipleship to come into Foothills Church.
IronMen Year End Summary 2011 by Victor Simon
My name is Victor Simon and I attend St Timothy Lutheran Church located in Bonita Vista. I would like to share with you my experience in the one year commitment I made in the IronMen Ministry Discipleship. Before IronMen began I was very excited and eager to see what God would be doing in my life and in the lives of the men around me that had made the same commitment.
In the months prior to IronMen I could not honestly say that I loved the Lord with all my heart, soul and mind. I was getting to know God by praying and reading His Word. I did not yet realize that I had a choice to love God with all of my heart, soul and mind. Once IronMen started and I began to go through the curriculum reading the materials and getting to know the men in my group I realize how much God loved me and the other men. God wanted to have an intimate loving relationship with me.
I knew in my heart that He wanted me to accomplish things that would help me and the other men to grow and mature bearing fruit. Jesus really is my good Shepherd, my Lord, my Savior and my Friend. Through the IronMen Discipleship God has taught me how to love Him, to love myself and to love others with all that I am in Him, my very being from the depths of my soul.
God’s grace and mercy has taught me that in order to follow Him I must always take the first step of faith, to join Him in what He is doing. God wants me to join Him in the good works He is doing around me praying always that His will would be done.
I now have a new confidence, a new joy and a new hope that I can do all things through Him. I have never been where I am today and everyday is an adventure. I wake up lookinf forward to what God will do in my new future. My mind has been renewed and I am fit and ready for the battle’s that lay ahead as I am a warrior in God’s mighty army. I Belong to Him forever, Amen
IronMen2 Ministry Discipleship Summary
I have only been at Foothills for about a year but I began attending Ironmen at Foothills while I was still a member of Grace Fellowship Church. My wife Andrea and I had been counseling with George and Becky Runyan , and I started Ironmen at George’s suggestion. He thought I could benefit from the intensified discipleship that Ironmen offered.
I have a degree in Pastoral Studies from San Diego Christian College, so reading good Christian materials and going through curriculum is not new to me. I think the books and studies we go through in Ironmen provide a good foundation for any man who wants to mature as a disciple and take their walk to a new level, but that is not all. Following are some things that I have benefited from and I believe make Ironmen what it is:
1) Men committing to one another and to encouraging each other for a long term (there are a lot of things you learn about each other over the course of an entire year).
2) Men diving head first into something bigger than themselves. The commitment is huge and keeps you dependent on God and your Brothers in Christ by design.
3) Ironmen provides a model for servant leadership that builds men up to their God-given potential in every area of their lives and releases them to fulfill their roles in God’s kingdom.
I am now leading an Ironmen group and I can honestly say I have never had as much of God’s Word “in me” as I do now. I am having victory in areas where I used to be defeated. I understand more fully how God is at work in areas of my life that I used to pray God would remove from me. I have been both humbled and strengthened to keep pursuing the character and ministry of my Lord. I know I can’t achieve this without significant connection with other men who love God.
Comments about Ironmen training session at The Rock Church:
I was really impressed with how the leadership of Ironmen has humbly linked arms with Ironmen Discipleship Ministry from Visalia, Ca. The Visalia group has been used by God to bring life to churches by establishing and reviving men’s ministries. They are expanding into other states and some of the things I heard reminded me of Revivals and moves of God from the past I have experienced and read about. Here are some things that stood out to me:
1) They biblically challenge the status quo of what has come to be known as “discipleship” in our day and age, emphasizing that it must expand beyond the walls of the church building.
2) The process of making disciples is something they are good at making accessible to all, from mature believers to those who are unchurched.
3) They have a good balance of fostering real relationships between men and getting them excited about reaching out boldly and intentionally.
4) Their “secret” is that they are really a family ministry, because releasing men to really be who God made them to be will impact the family and society as a whole.
I don’t know how the two ministries blended together will ultimately end up looking like, but I see a powerhouse of potential between the depth of discipleship in one group, and the bold, contagious and structured outreach of the other.
Iron Men Ministries
My family and I have been incredibly blessed by the experiences that we have had at Foothills. My wife has participated in many women’s bible studies where she has had the opportunity to create godly friendships with other women. My son, who has just entered high school, spent the last three years in the junior high school department where he gained a solid foundation of biblical teaching that I know will be invaluable throughout his life. My daughter enjoys her time in the children’s church where she is able to share with our family the lessons that she has learned. Personally, I have grown as a husband, father, son, friend, and Christian.
The large part of the growth that I have experienced has come within the last two years. I knew after only one or two services, that Foothills was the place that God had called my family and me. Not long after I began attending the church I began to look for ways to become involved. Little did I know the changes that He had in store for me. I soon found myself involved in the Ironmen Discipleship Ministry, and that was all the opportunity that the Lord needed in my life. I was presented with a practical way to apply the things I had learned over many years as a Christian. In the first year I spent in Ironmen, my life was radically changed. I no longer had just the assurance of eternal salvation, but an intimate love relationship with my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. My priorities were rearranged, my relationships with other believers changed, my interaction with my family transformed, and the Fruit of the Spirit was clearly visible in my life. I was a new creature.
After my graduation from Ironmen, I was graciously invited to return for a second year as a small group leader. Although I was hesitant at first, I accepted, and have experienced an entirely new outpouring of blessings from both God and the men I am lucky enough to call my brothers in Christ. As this year of Ironmen draws to a close, I recently had the chance to attend a training seminar for a new and exciting ministry opportunity through a group of men called Iron Men Ministries.
This gathering of Iron Men from Visalia, CA, as well as from many other churches around San Diego, was powerful. There, in one place, was a gathering of men who had left all their individual and denominational differences at the door, and were there with a voracious appetite for what God was going to do in them and through them. There was no discussion of end times theology, church organizational structure, baptismal ceremony, or anything of the sort. The focus was solely on how to bring other men into the Kingdom of God, develop them into spiritual warriors who would serve their local church, and then go into the world to gather more men into a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. The spirit of unity and love was overwhelming.
I am very thankful for the time I have spent in Ironmen Discipleship Ministries, and am looking forward with eager anticipation to what God has planned through Iron Men Ministries. The chance to work together with these two ministries in an organized and concerted effort to reach those men who need to come to know Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, as well as those men with a desire to take their relationship with the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit to a whole new level of intimacy is something that I can hardly wait to be a part of.
IronMen Year End Summary 2011 by Jason Brust
Having grown up in a Christian home I spent a lot of time in various church services, but was still unsure what to expect when I went to Ironmen. I had been taught that I was supposed to spend time with God every day, and read His Word regularly, but what I didn’t know, was how to maintain my commitment to spending time with God long term. What Ironmen did for me was to take the desire I had to grow in God, and put it into a practical application. Through Biblical reading, scripture memorization, textual reading, group discussion, and a system of accountability, I was presented with a real life way to make my spiritual goals a reality. All I had to do was commit to a one year in depth study and make room for God in my life. When I was presented with a course of study that, through the testimony of many witnesses, was life changing, I could not deny the invitation, and instead say that I had more important things in my life than meeting in an intimate and loving way with the Creator of the Universe.
What I soon realized after beginning my study with Ironmen was that I had a pretty solid understanding of theological principles and biblical insights. I also realized that the knowledge I had gathered rested solely in my head. I had never transferred the information from the years I spent in church to my heart. As I studied the gospels with my Ironmen group, I read about the interaction that Jesus had with the Pharisees, Sadducees, and other religious officials of his day. These men were very devoted to study and had an incredibly detailed knowledge of Biblical texts. One of the things they lacked in their lives was heart knowledge. The same heart knowledge I lacked. They had rejected the Messiah, and I was rejecting Him access to my heart. The day I realized that I had a lot more in common with the religious elite of Jesus’ day than I ever wanted to admit, was a very humbling experience. This realization was also the beginning of my organized pursuit of God to fill my heart with His desires and direction for my life. He asked me to give up control of everything I held so tightly. My plans, career, family, and every step I took, belonged to Him. It was my job to release these things to Him so that he could use me for His glory. The change in perspective I experienced in my life filtered into every area.
Where in the past I had struggled to hear His voice, it seemed that now I couldn’t pick up His Word, or a book, without receiving a fresh word from the Holy Spirit. He also began to change my heart by softening it in the way that I related to those around me. I had never felt any special connection to other Christians in the past, but I soon developed a love for the men in my Ironmen small group that was unprecedented in my life. I was thrilled at any opportunity to spend time with these brothers, dive deep into God’s word, share what was happening in our lives, and encourage one another. I also began to relate differently to my family, noticing I had more peace, patience, kindness, and joy to bring into my house. My days of a once a week trip to church are over, as I now long for a daily filling of the Holy Spirit. I have entered into a new era in my life, although it is not without trials and spiritual opposition from the world around me.
Over the last year I learned that Satan seemed to be entirely content to let me, as a Christian sit in a weekend church service as long as I did not make an impact for the Kingdom of God. I could go to church, live a moral life, do most of what the Bible taught, and still be living a life of total ineffectiveness for God. I need to make an effort to have a real love relationship with my Creator. Jesus came to earth to establish His kingdom here. It is my responsibility as a Christian, to partner with God in the work He is doing to advance His kingdom. Living a moral life, being compassionate to others, giving charitable donations, being encouraged, and having an emotionally uplifting experience, do not require a single ounce of Christianity. These are all wonderful byproducts of the Christian life, but they can all be experienced outside of Christendom. A close, loving relationship with God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the daily filling of the Holy Spirit should be the focus of my life. It seems that Satan deems it adequate that if he can’t destroy everyone’s life through drugs, alcohol, sexual immortality, and blatant self- destructive behavior, he is content to let them sit passively in church and spiritually die, because they are of no eternal consequence to those around them. As a Christian I have been commanded to join together with other like- minded believers to lift one another up and carry one another’s burdens. I have heard God’s call to put on His armor, rise up, advance the Kingdom, encourage one another, gather together, draw near to Him, and be daily filled with the His presence, through the time I have spent in the Ironmen Discipleship Ministries. For this I am eternally grateful!
IronMen Ministry Discipleship Testimony
Hello to all, our hope is that you are in Gods grace, mercy and presence as you read this testimony of inspiration and encouragement from our brother Dave.
Dave begins his reflection with; I will try to keep it short. I first accepted Christ as my savior when I was about 17yrs old around 1963. Tim LaHaye was the pastor at the church I attended. But each Sunday when I walked out of church I went right back to business as usual. After I got out army in 1968, I was 21yrs old and I got involved with outlaw bikers, I chose them for my mentors Drinking, Women, Gun, Drugs and a lot of partying. I did everything that was against God. Lucky I never went to jail, tortured people, or became involved in a conspiracy to murder someone. I served the devil until I was fired from my job in 2008.
I had plenty of time on my hands and began to read the Bible. I found myself reading it from cover to cover for first time in my life. The Holy Ghost open my eyes to Gods word in the bible. In 2009 I decided to attend the Rock Church and found myself at the MOTR men’s ministry. While there I ran into a guy by the name of Rick Holderby. After spending some time with him talking about God, the bible and my need to know Him more I decided to enter into IronMen 2 Discipleship. I agreed to commit to spending one year with Jesus Christ through this ministry. I completed the one year and graduated from the IronMen 2 Discipleship in 2010.
I found that I was even more on fire for the Lord but in December of 2010 I was rear ended on my motorcycle and while in the hospital the doctors discovered I had a brain tumor the size of my fist. After the emergency surgery I was paralyzed for 4 or 5 months, I lost the use of my left arm and could not walk.
I and the Lord had a lot of discussions. Everything was taken from me except my relationship with the Lord. Through my time being alone and seeking Him I had to learn what my real priorities were. Then Gods grace, mercy and favor came upon me and the good Lord healed me. Through this process I became closer to Him and I understand more how he works and even more now than at that time of the accident. It was a long hard road to recovery. I told the Lord if I could ride my bike again I would dedicate it and me 100 percent to His plan for my life.
I have since that time joined the Christian Motorcycle Association. They are world wide and their mission is to bring unsaved bikers to Christ. I didn’t stop there as MOTR started and IronMen 1 Discipleship I went right into that ministry and completed another one year commitment and graduated with the first class in 2011. I am now attending MOTR Tuesday nights and have been blessed and encouraged to become one of the small group leaders for the Warriors Ministry.
This is more than I wanted to say and I thank the Holy Spirit for giving me these words and so praise be the Lord. I thank the Lord for being there with me and recognize Him as God Almighty over all my life. I am glad that He forgive my sins because I am not proud of the old person I was. Thank you Lord Jesus that I am born again a new creature in Christ and that you gave your life for a wretch like me.
Testimony from IronMen 2 Discipleship Class of 2011
Hello to all and peace, grace and joy to you in our Lord Jesus Christ.
This is a testimony from one of the brothers in Christ by the name of Joe Nilles. I would like to share his testimony with you all in Joe’s one year commitment in the IronMen Discipleship Ministry at Foothills Christian Church. Our hope is that it will be a word of encouragement for those seeking our Lord.
Joe begins by writing; when I reflect back at the beginning of my commitment I realize how much the Holy Spirit has been at work in me and how He continues to do the work in the area of my flesh where I had constant trouble. The Holy Spirit in the continuing love relationship process through spending time with Him has dissolved my wrong attitude and demeanor as I find myself becoming more Christ like each and every day. I find that it lifts up my heart recognizing His peace and joy.
I look back even before IronMen and remember how depressed and broken I had become. I now know in my heart that is exactly where God had to bring me for His will to manifest itself in me. I see the mistakes that where made in trying on my own to understand His purposes. I now know I need to humble myself in submission to Him wanting to be obedient in Him as He reveals His nature back into me giving me directions in my life.
Today I am looking forward to serving my King Jesus with all my heart, soul, mind and strength loving Him as He first loved me. If you let Him in and I mean really let Him in He will overwhelm you with His love. Thank You, Lord of all.
Email from Jaime,
May God continue to bless all of you in this ministry and may he
countinue to make it grow.
I know this must come to a big surprise to hear from me but I wanted
to let all of you know just what the Ironman Ministry has done for me
in my life!!!!! Because of this Ministry I was able to finish my
school where I received my certificationas an Alcohol and Drug
Addiction Counselor, and now I’m working in Palm Springs Ca. at a
methadone clinic helping Heroin addicts get off opiate illicit drugs.
God is using me to bring these lost souls back or to Him and I have
been blessed to give them my testimony as to how God has cleaned up my
life and what he has put in my heart to do for His Glory and Kingdom.
I am now an active member of a Bible teaching Church and we have 40 to
50 members in our congrigation and I’m helping with the hispanic
community and with the homeless community where there is a multitude
of Drug Addiction. Our Church is renting me an office to give
services to these individuals that want help to get off drugs and
So you ask me what did the Ironman Ministry do for me????????? Well it
gave me knowledge through Jesus to know that when I start something
now I do indeed know that I can finish it in Jesus Name. Amen and God
Bless you all.